Do you think it's wrong that if I grab a woman's butt, and she slaps me, she is fighting for her rights, but if a homosexual grabs my butt, and I punch him, I'm a homophobe? What if i word it different; Do you think it's wrong that if a woman is sexually assaulted, and she fights back she is fighting for her rights, but if a man is sexually assaulted and he fights back he has tendencies?
How about if i say, psychopaths are just misunderstood people? What about, psychopaths are just people with mental disorders? Is it what you say or how you say it? Take for another example, if i were to say "L.A. has become a mecca for homosexual migration, i would be in the right, but I am implying many things that may not be true. As to saying that L.A. is full of gay people is just being honest. There are many things you could say to mean the exact same thing in the end, but if you do not word it just right you could hurt someones feelings. Then there are some things that no matter how you say them they mean the same thing. So i ask you, which is more important to society today; What you say or How you say it? Any comments on this matter would be appreciated.
How about if i say, psychopaths are just misunderstood people? What about, psychopaths are just people with mental disorders? Is it what you say or how you say it? Take for another example, if i were to say "L.A. has become a mecca for homosexual migration, i would be in the right, but I am implying many things that may not be true. As to saying that L.A. is full of gay people is just being honest. There are many things you could say to mean the exact same thing in the end, but if you do not word it just right you could hurt someones feelings. Then there are some things that no matter how you say them they mean the same thing. So i ask you, which is more important to society today; What you say or How you say it? Any comments on this matter would be appreciated.
Thanks, Keith Hammock (11:00 class)
10 comments:
Man this question is hard to answer. Well first off, I think people should respect each other enough to not grab parts of the body that would disrespect them. But in this case, I'll just assume it happens. In our society I think a woman slapping a man because he grabbed her butt would be considered her fighting for her rights, and a guy punching a gay guy for grabbing his butt would be considered homophobic. I think the main reason for that is the fact that homosexuals and women are both touchy subjects in our world today. Both groups are fighting for their equal rights in society so any actions against them (even if the actions are justified) would be considered denying their rights. Now to answer your question about laws against public displays of affection - I don't think their needs to be any law against that. I don't if a gay couple demonstrates that affection in public, as well with different sex couples. If two people truly love each other, why should they not be allowed to express it in public? In my mind they should. Now on the other hand if there are some inappropriate sexual actions being displayed in public, then yes it should be stopped. Any nudity or placement of hands in pants or up shirts is meant for the privacy of the couple's residence. Otherwise it's fine by me.
Nigel Knop.
I really think that it boils down to respecting other people, and if you don't know if someone wants to watch you make out than simply don't do it in public. There are to many peolpe that aren't concerned with other peoples feelings,yet when it comes to there own feelings they expect others to just deal with it even when they are not willing to "just deal with" how they are affecting others. It's something that is so simple it's become complicated. It's also common curtisy to let a parent teach there child about the birds and the bees and not learn it on the sidewalk watching two peolpe grab, fondling and what ever else to each other. Like alot of things moderation is key, an "I Love You" kiss or hug is a nice and not overly exaturated way to show affection in public. You can't make guidelines though so we should all try to honor one another, and remember there's a Time and Place for everything!Sometimes the bedroom would be more appropiate place.Amy Marx
I think the problem is not being accused of homophobia it is that when you punch him it can be come a hate crime. I do think it is a double standard. I think that it is also the views on the attitudes of diffrent genders and if the have a significant other beacuse if a girl came up to a single guy and grabbed his butt i beleive that the guy would have no issue with that because the guy would think of it as flirting. but if it were the other way around the females take it a a lack of respect and get up set. But when it is male on male or female on female and one of the partiens is gay and the other is not i beleve that it is always acceptable to get upset and it should be treeated as sexual harrasment.
Jeremy Miller
For the first part of the question I believe we have to look to our past when women's rights were nothing like they are today. Before women were treated equally(or at least more equal than in years past), if a man grabbed her butt she probabaly coulnd't get away with slapping him. Back then males were seen as dominant over females so they couldn't get away with expressing their emotions at all. In the present day we are trying so hard to not treat homosexuals this way, that if you do any sort of harm to one, people may consider you to be a homophobe. I think it is wrong for us to hold anyone to a different standard at anytime to anyone. This includes not allowing homosexuals to express their affections in public. I believe people need to get over the stereotypes and see past peoples sexual prefrence, because just being gay shouldn't put you in a lower or higher class than anyone else.
Patrick Larson
It is wrong to grab any ones butt without the permission of the person who is affected and unfortunately this happens all too often in our society. It is called a lack of respect for our basic human rights. It doesn't matter if you are women, man, lesbian, or homosexual. The truth hurts sometimes and it makes a difference how you approach the truth that makes the difference between misunderstanding and acceptance. So it is what you say and how you say it that makes the difference. Hurting someone's feelings by saying something you know will hurt their feelings is something that happens, but careful wording can minimize the impact.Linda Francis
It is all about how you see things. If a woman's butt is grabbed by a man than I think she has every right to slap him especially if she doesn't know him, but if it is someone she knowns then he doesn't have a excuess either. If a woman grabs a guys butt, to me that is rude to, men have every right to be affended by someone grabbing their butt. I would be affended but wouldn't punch someone for it. I think people have a problem with keeping their hands to themselves. If you are gay or lesbian you have every right to be what you are. You must understand that it is easy to affend those around you by being this way. People have a problem letting go of that people are different and have different types of likes and dislikes. We need to keep are comments and hand to ourself it all comes to the saying if you have nothing to good to say don't say anything at all.
Jarrod Winder
Well, if a man grabbed a woman's butt without any type of permission, I think he should be slapped and that is her fighting for her rights. If a gay man grabbed a straight man's butt and he punches the gay man, i think that is just the straight man's way of saying that he doesn't want to be touched there by another man. To be honest, I would have a hard time not punching someone if i was grabbed there by another guy.I don't really like public displays of action regardless if it's a man and a woman, man with another man, or whatever. I just think that type of stuff should be done in there own privacy. Now holding hands, and even a little peck on the lips I can live with, but making out in the hallways of a school is just a little weird, in my opinion. Like i said, regardless of what kind of couple it is. Matt Lindsay
I think how you say something is definately more important than what you say. How you act, the gestures you make, your tone of voice- these are all things that people notice before they process your words. People tend to be very defensive, and their initial reacion to what a person says is key to their response.
Megan Qualls
How we say things can often be misunderstood. I believe it lies more in the content and the intentions of the individual statement. If the statement is meant to be degrading in any way it is a potential problem. society has depleated many word usage from past times for this reason. In a progressive society, it makes sense that language is progressive also. As for when a man grabs a girls butt, slaping him may be an over-reaction, but the man has degraded her. I think Using violence as our means of solving the problem is over-reacting. If that same gets his butt grabbed by a gay man it is fitting, He now realizes what it feels to be degraded. He may over-react by punching the man, but that would be a way to ignore those feelings. He has now felt what women feel in that similar position. It is more of a touchy subject for women, because they have been through a long fight for rights. There was a time in history when the women would've had to accept what just happened and not show true emotions. Men, through time has always had those rights. In certain countries women still don't have rights, and if a situation such as this arises it would be considered her fault. Richard Gere and a BaliWood star have been in headlines lately over this type of situation. Richard Gere gave an affectionate kiss to the BaliWood star on television in India. In India showing affection is illegal, and the BaliWood star was blamed for Richard Gere's actions. As for the saying about L.A. being a mecca for migration of homosexuals, is a misanalysis. Being in certain areas of L.A. you might get that idea, however, it is more of a myopic analysis. In that certain region there may be a lot of homosexuals, but L.A. overall is not mostly homosexuals. To get a rational analysis of the subject you would have to get all of L.A. into perspective. I feel that if we want to be an intelligent society, our language and actions should support it. Therefore, how we say things, is very important on relaying our message. Unintelligent sayings seem to be contagious, so the less we use them the better society is. I would want somebody to call me out if I was guilty of saying something unintelligent, and I can avoid it reaccuring. People in mass media should be more conscience of this than ordinary citizens.
Aaron Peters
Seeing a women be sexually assulted you would think thats wrong someting should be done or when she defends herself its ok. However when a man is sexually assulted by a man its different because peolpe would look at you as if you dont like homosexuals. I dont think that its you dont like them its just that you dont want to be offended in that way just like a women would not want to. I have no problem wit homos and have some as friends. If they ever crossed that boundary line i would flip out not because i don't like them but because it is just as wrong to come at me with disrespect just as it would be if a dude did.
Oshawa Wardlow
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